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== Help function ==

It would (IMO) be helpful to have a shortcut for a "help function" by assigning "view the page [[WP:Keyboard shortcuts|Keyboard shortcuts]]" to a key such as {{key|?}}. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 13:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move 21 June 2024 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.'''  [[User:Robertsky|– robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|talk]]) 07:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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[[:Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts]] → {{no redirect|Help:Keyboard shortcuts}} – Seems more like help for using wikipedia than tips for building wikipedia [[User:Aaron Liu|<span style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span>]] ([[User talk:Aaron Liu#top|talk]]) 20:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
* '''Rename''' per nom. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
* '''Rename''' per nom. [[User:Daask|Daask]] ([[User talk:Daask|talk]]) 01:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2024 ==

{{Edit semi-protected|Help:Keyboard shortcuts|answered=yes}}
Request: Please change column value (data item) in table from "hold Alt + access key[3]" to "hold Alt + Shift + access key[3]".

Location: ... inside the first table ("Using access keys") on the webpage, at the intersection of the "Instructions" column and the "Internet Explorer MS Edge" row.

This highlights the column value in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Keyboard_shortcuts#:~:text=Windows-,hold,-Alt%2Baccess%20key%5B [[User:Tophernil|Tophernil]] ([[User talk:Tophernil|talk]]) 00:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Pictogram voting question.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Question:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Are you sure? I heard MS Edge recently switched to Chromium. Should I add Edge Chromium to the top? ⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 19:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:Randomstaplers|Randomstaplers]], I'm absolutely certain the Microsoft Edge (Chromium-based web browser, 2020) shortcut format should be '''"Hold Alt + ⇧Shift + access key"'''. I know this since I use Edge as my browser. :) 
::Based on the current unedited version of the shortcut format for MS Edge, should a user ''only'' press and hold Alt f, the Microsoft Edge "Settings and more menu" will pop open. However, this is not what the shortcut format in the Wiki table suggests will happen: open/jump to the Wiki search box. To jump to the Wiki search box, a user must press and hold '''Alt ⇧Shift f''' (not Alt f), or else the MS Edge settings menu will pop up. 
::The same concept applies to the other Wiki shortcut keys. For example, to edit a Wiki page, a user must press and hold '''Alt ⇧Shift e''' (not Alt e, which also opens up MS Edge settings menu. lol.). 
::In conclusion, the keyboard shortcut format for carrying out Wikipedia tasks (in Microsoft Edge web browser) should be changed from "Hold Alt + access key" to '''"Hold Alt + ⇧Shift + access key"'''. The ⇧Shift key is necessary since it's specific to Wikipedia. Without it, the shortcut format applies to MS Edge-specific tasks, like opening up the Microsoft Edge settings menu.
::<u>'''Original Sources:'''</u>
::Alt f (or Alt e):
::https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/keyboard-shortcuts-in-microsoft-edge-50d3edab-30d9-c7e4-21ce-37fe2713cfad#:~:text=Alt%20%2B%20F,and%20more%20%20menu
::Chromium-based in 2020:
::https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/microsoft-edge/download-the-new-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium-0f4a3dd7-55df-60f5-739f-00010dba52cf [[User:Tophernil|Tophernil]] ([[User talk:Tophernil|talk]]) 20:52, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::Just call it MS Edge or Microsoft Edge. Adding Chromium-based to the name is not needed. [[User:Tophernil|Tophernil]] ([[User talk:Tophernil|talk]]) 20:55, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:::You remember the old Microsoft Edge for Windows 10, right?⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 20:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I'll clarify this - EdgeHTML⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 20:58, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::For context, I'm using Microsoft Edge on a Windows 11 operating system. [[User:Tophernil|Tophernil]] ([[User talk:Tophernil|talk]]) 21:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::* It's already changed. [[EdgeHTML]] is linked. ⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 21:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Clearing queue. ⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 18:25, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ⸺([[User talk:Randomstaplers|'''Random''']])[[User:Randomstaplers|staplers]] 20:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
::Awesome. Thank you @[[User:Randomstaplers|Randomstaplers]]. [[User:Tophernil|Tophernil]] ([[User talk:Tophernil|talk]]) 20:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)