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== Problem with Korean/English article link ==

Could somebody drop in at [[Talk:Sambe#Interwiki]]? Thanks in advance ☆ [[User:Bri|Bri]] ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 02:44, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

== Merger proposal ==
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|result = Clear consensus for support. Now to actually do the merge.  ''[[User:Sam1370|sam1370]] ([[User talk:Sam1370|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Sam1370|contribs]])'' 05:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)}}
I think that [[Help:Interwikimedia links]] should be merged into this article, [[Help:Interwiki linking]]. The two articles cover the same topic, and this article appears to have all information that the other one has.

By the way, maybe we should have [[Help:Linking to sister projects]] redirect to the merge article?

Please discuss the proposed merge here and not on [[Help talk:Interwikimedia links]] or anywhere else. [[User talk:The_Nth_User|Care to differ or discuss with me?]] [[User:The_Nth_User|The N<sup>th</sup> User]] 02:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' I see no reason for having two pages.[[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 10:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Yes please! Darn fragmentation. From looking at a couple of random 2006 era diffs, it seems that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwikimedia_links&oldid=46930231 Help:Interwikimedia_links] was originally a simpler/basic overview, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwiki_linking&oldid=48733214 Help:Interwiki_linking] was always the more complex version. The former's intent should just be the top section of a single page. Thank you for doing this! [[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] ([[User talk:Quiddity|talk]]) 00:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
*'''Yes'''. Seems to be a pointless [[WP:ADVICEFORK]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 13:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
* '''Support'''. [[User:Daask|Daask]] ([[User talk:Daask|talk]]) 13:06, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Non-roman scripts ==

Hi, {{u|Michael Bednarek}}; re [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwiki_linking&oldid=prev&diff=932079099 this revert], I think it doesn't work, because an English-wikipedia article will not have a name given in an completely non-Roman script. Therefore the redlink will be wrong; it will be for an article that will never be created, and will thus never turn blue. Example: {{ill|حليمة مظفر|ar}}. This gives a non-arabic-speaker no clue what the English article should be called, and even an arabic-speaking editor would need to go look up our romanization standards to know. Maybe we need another parameter for the English-article title, if different from the foreign-language title. [[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]]) 20:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
:The {{tl|ill}} template has options that cover this: {{ill|Halima Muzaffar|ar|حليمة مظفر}}. I don't think this help page should try to explain all that the template can do, provided it has a link to the template. Disclaimer: "Halima Muzaffar" is from Google Translate; I know no Arabic. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 21:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
::Aside: {{tl|ill}} also provides options to link to Wikidata ({{ill|Halema Muzaffar|qid=Q12208649}}) and Commons ({{ill|Halema Muzaffar|Commons|Category:Halema Muzaffar}}). -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 00:31, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
:::That's great, that's the functionality I wanted and did not find. Any clarification that would make subsequent editors more likely to figure it out is good, but obviously not everything can go everywhere. [[User:HLHJ|HLHJ]] ([[User talk:HLHJ|talk]]) 17:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

== Invalid syntax ==

Hey {{u|PK2}}, I tried [[wikipedia:de:James Bond]] and [[:de:w:James Bond]] with the first being a red link, and the 2nd one linking to English wiki page despite looking like a valid German interwiki link. Am I misunderstanding your edits? [[User:Shushugah|Shushugah]] ([[User talk:Shushugah|talk]]) 16:17, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
:I'm sorry about that. -- [[User:PK2|PK2]] ([[User talk:PK2|talk]]) 23:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
::The redlink on the first is easily explained: the <code>wikipedia:</code> part is not being parsed as an interwiki prefix, but as a namespace prefix, and there is no page named <code>de:James Bond</code> in the Wikipedia: namespace. The fix for this is to shorten <code>wikipedia:</code> to <code>w:</code>, as in [[w:de:James Bond]].
::The fact that the second one is apparently ignoring the <code>de:</code> part is a puzzler. When I hover over the link, or examine the HTML for the page, the link is https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/w:James_Bond but upon clicking it, the page that is reached has the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond - I think that the behaviour for this one has indeed changed. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
:I'm having a similar issue with the syntax. I'm trying to use <code><nowiki>[[w:is:Íslensk orðsifjabók|Íslensk orðsifjabók]]</nowiki></code> to link from [[wikt:Wiktionary:Reference_templates]] to Wikipedia. It doesn't work there, but it works here: [[w:is:Íslensk orðsifjabók|Íslensk orðsifjabók]]. Does anyone know what's going on? [[User:Caoimhin ceallach|Caoimhin ceallach]] ([[User talk:Caoimhin ceallach|talk]]) 14:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
::@[[User:Caoimhin ceallach|Caoimhin ceallach]], works for me. Please see [[wikt:Special:Permalink/80816629]]. —⁠[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 22:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

== Adding and changing interwiki prefixes ==

What rights do a user need to have to add/change/delete the interwiki prefixes? I would like a [[halopedia:]] prefix to link to [[wikiindex:Halopedia|Halopedia]], a [[Halo (franchise)|''Halo'']] fan site (https://www.halopedia.org/$1), [[youtubechannel:]] to link to a [[YouTube]] channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/$1), and [[youtubevideo:]] to link to a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1). [[User:EthanGaming7640|EthanGaming7640]] ([[User talk:EthanGaming7640|talk]]) 16:46, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

== iarchive interwiki links ==

Hi, I recently had a student create an interwiki-like link from the [[Ann_Eliza_Young#Wife_No._19|section on ''Wife No. 19'']] on the Ann Eliza Young page to a scan of the book on Internet Archive. As I'm researching the iarchive interwiki link, it looks like it was made to make it easier to link to sources on Wikisource. Is it appropriate to use in the body of a Wikipedia page? [[User:Rachel Helps (BYU)|Rachel Helps (BYU)]] ([[User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)|talk]]) 20:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

== Interwiki links to IMDB ==

Following a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_February_9#Links to imdb that looks like wikilinks]] and [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_79#Masking imdb links as wikilinks]] {{u|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} and I have removed all instances to date where interwiki links such as [[imdbtitle:11261270|Zengo]] have been used in Mainspace. The searches for imdbname [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22imdbname%22+insource%3A%2F%5C%5Bimdbname%3A%2F&ns0=1] and imdbtitle [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22imdbtitle%22+insource%3A%2F%5C%5Bimdbtitle%3A%2F&ns0=1] therefore currently contain no hits. Unfortunately, the documentation on this Help Page implies that such interwiki links are acceptable in the body text of articles, disagreeing with [[WP:ELPOINTS]] and leading to [[WP:EASTEREGG]]s as when clicked they take readers out of Wikipedia despite looking to most like conventional bluelinks. Note that there are templates {{tl|imdbname}} and {{tl|imdbtitle}} that achieve the same outcome and are widely used in the external links section of articles. Please can an expert alter this Help documentation to make it less likely editors will use these links incorrectly? [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

:I haven't checked the documentation but I support this message. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

== Interlanguage links not deprecated ==

The wording should be changed to say that Interlanguage links are deprecated <span style="text-decoration:1px wavy #edb730 underline">in mainspace</span>, not that they are deprecated everywhere.

Section {{slink|Help:Interwiki linking|Interlanguage links|nopage=yes}} marks interlanguage links as ''deprecated'', full stop, but they have a good use which should encouraged, not discouraged, and that is for translators who start their translated articles in Draft space. I have created dozens of articles this way, and it is a huge timesaver to have the manual interlanguage link point to the original (foreign) language Wikipedia article, which makes it show up in the left sidebar/language dropdown list, from where you can quickly find the original. There is evidence of usage of it in the first three languages I tried: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=draft+insource%3A%2F%5C%5B%5C%5Bde%3A%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 de], 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help_talk:Interwiki_linking&action=edit&section=18 fr], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gonzalo_Lira es], and so on. (Some of these are clearly malformed interwiki links which failed to include the leading colon, maybe even most of them; but not all are.) 

There is nothing wrong with this usage, and the guideline should not discourage it.  [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 02:42, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
:I agree. Old-style interlanguage links are generally not needed any more, but, as [[WP:LOCALLINK]] points out, there are situations where they still serve a purpose, even in mainspace. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 03:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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== Linking Commons ==

It appears that this guideline is outdated: Commons is linked automatically and shown on the sidebar of the articlr, if it is in wikidata. I am not sure whether the same is valid for other sister projects like wikiquote. - [[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 20:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:Which specific part is outdated? --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry I was not clear: the section about linking to sister project must say that Commons and possibly other sister projects are linked automatically and adding templates like {commonscat} is no longer necessary. Instead, people must update wikidata. I am raising the issue because recently I see a flurry of wikignomes adding unnecesary {commonscat} template into articles on my watchlist. - [[user:Altenmann|Altenmann]] [[user talk:Altenmann|>talk]] 00:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Most of the page is about making links such as <code><nowiki>[[commons:category:Wikimedia]]</nowiki></code>, not about {{tlx|commons}} and similar boxes. There are also times when Wikidata is incapable of producing an appropriate link, see for example the two {{tlx|commonscat inline}} at [[AEC Renown#External links]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 08:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)