Talk:Unit 101
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POV
Article is deeply non-NPOV. Needs to be gone over.
- I agree. This is definitely written with an extremely biased POV.
Deaths: Qibya massacre says over 50. This article says almost 70. How many were there? TomCerul 13:21, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
This article seems like a stub which needs some serious editing --Anton Adelson, Western Australia 21:00, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Excised this odd "Reference" which listed no actual source or authority:
- "It was top secret" / Yosef Argaman p.19
--LeFlyman 13:40, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Qibya is also commonly spelled "Kibya" and occasionally "Qibieh" in numerous publications.
This article is rubbish; it is disgusting in its anti-Israel bias
Benny Thomas is a notorious Israel basher. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.190.207.155 (talk) 21:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC).
taking a look at the home site of the group in hebrew and making a comparisment with the highly POV article used most for this title, i believe we should look for originals and less POV sources who seem to be citing their own sources in a non academic way to support their pretext... once we can get a few proper sources, we can get rid of this non-encyclopedic and even defamatory source. Jaakobou 10:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Also why is this under the Palestine project? This is an article about an Israeli unit shouldn't it be under the Israel project? --Hadees 03:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Unit 101 was an infamous terrorist group masquerading as a counter-terrorism unit. The article should reflect that. 71.203.209.0 (talk) 19:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
El-Bureij attack
The article says: "The mission was to kill Col. Mustafa Hafez, the chief of Egyptian intelligence in the Gaza Strip who stood behind many of the early violent infiltrations into Israel.", without giving a source. Yet the Zionist historian Yoab Gelber writes: "In the end of this first month, a patrol of the unit that infiltrated into the Gaza Strip as an exercise, encountered Arabs in al-Burej refugee camp, opened fire to rescue itself and left behind about 30 killed Arabs and dozens of wounded.". Now this Gelber is quite a pro-Israeli historian, so I have no reason to doubt his reliability here and I have put his version in the article. --JaapBoBo (talk) 21:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- He is not a Zioniste historian. He is an Israeli historian.
- And he is not pro-Israeli, he is Israeli.
- Ok for the remaining.
- Ceedjee (talk) 08:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK, Ceedjee. We all have to be careful on this kind of topic to stay as neutral (encyclopedic) and cool in our talks as possible. Poppy (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
- Salut Poppy,
- Please no 'false symmetry' :-)
- I should stay more cool but there is no issue between me and npov.
- JaapBoBo is extremally cool but there is nothing but issues between him and npov. Ceedjee (talk) 08:30, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- OK, Ceedjee. We all have to be careful on this kind of topic to stay as neutral (encyclopedic) and cool in our talks as possible. Poppy (talk) 10:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
"Enemy Citizens"
Perhaps it is an overly philosophical point, but I'd appreciate a little discussion on the phrase "killed dozens of unarmed enemy citizens"; particularly the final two words. Civilians who aren't contributing to a war or conflict aren't necessarily enemies. They are non combatants whose feelings toward another state are unlikely to be accurately stated by a generalization of this sort. If we assume all citizens of warring states are enemies, then there isn't much reason for uniformed soldiers to avoid directly engaging them.
I do hope you'll forgive my emphasis on my personal perspective here, but the sentence would be easy to change in a manner that both addresses my concern and maintains the facts originally presented. ~Artoro 30 December 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 14:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC).
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