User talk:Jdavidb/Archive2

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Past discussions on my talk page may be found on the following archive pages. My personal talk page archiving policy may be found at User:Jdavidb/Talk archiving

• /Archive1 (2005-09-28 18:32:28 UTC)
• /Archive2 (14:56, 7 October 2005 (UTC))
• /Archive3 (15:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC))
• /Archive4 (14:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC))
• /Archive5 (15:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC))

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Jib Jab

Yeah, I suppose it would. Deleting copyvios is a different process than regular deletions, and one I have yet to have anything to do with. I guess the different policy is so a non-copyright version of the article can be created in the meantime, however, as this is impossible in this case, I guess there is no reason not to speedy it. It might be stretching the rules a bit, but it will save trouble for others. You talked me into it. -R. fiend 21:20, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it was a stretch of the rules either, but I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it. -R. fiend 21:34, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm back

I posted on the admin notification board conversation about me. Check it out and weigh in, if you'd like. Uriah923 04:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Ecclesastical State Discusssion

I was curious when are we closing the discussion about the fate of the Ecclesastical State page? Can you let me know please? Thanks... Davidpdx 9/29/05 7:39 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. I am headed out of town this weekend, I was just curious what was going to happen and hoping I'd know before I left. We'll see I guess Davidpdx 9/29/05 14:12 (UTC)

Hi JdavidB, that is cool that you have such a famous relative in the field of legal definitions. I'm curious if your concern for this subject is motivated by your religious faith and if you see Melchizedek's claim to ecclesiastical statehood as a threat to that faith. Do you see any genuine faith in their translation of the Bible or their effort to "resurrect" the "Dominion of Melchizedek" from antiquity? I also agree to redirect ecclesiastical state to ecclesiastical government.Johnski 07:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

External Links

I understand that you remove incongruous links, but what criteria do you use to determine whether a link remains or not?

I am creating what I feel to be a truly useful and professional web site Bible Reviews that has information that I consider at least as valuable as that included in some of the other external links which are *not* removed by you.

Why do you remove links to web sites containing valuable information relating to the Wikipedia articles?

Why do you not remove links on these same pages to web sites containing vague, less-valuable information?

In other words, what do I have to do to make my web site worthy?

Thanks,

Jim Pettis

JimPettis@NetZero.com

9/29/05

Hey there

I think you've got a wonderful picture on your user page. It makes me smile whenever I come by :-) --HappyCamper 01:07, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

RFA

Congrats! Your RFA bid was sucessful, and you will now be an admin. However we have a bug in the system that is keeping us from giving you sysop rights. (More details on the RFA talk page). Thank you for your patience. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

WikiChristian

Hi there,

I notice that you are a Christian. Come and take a look at www.wikichiristian.org and consider contributing. It is still small and has very few users. I'm praying that God helps the site to grow and become a forum for Christians to write and read about all aspects of Christianity. It is not meant to be a copy of wikipedia. It is not meant to be purely an encyclopedia. For any given topic, it will hopefully contain a short summary of the topic followed by links to many sub-articles - some containing simple facts; some sharing experiences; some explaining a particular viewpoint and so on.

Take for example the article on grace. It has various "Definition and explanation" articles explaining the meaning of grace. It has a few "Articles / opinions" about grace. It has links for "Quotes' about grace and links to "Songs about grace". The site is also meant to be a resource site containing information about Christian texts, literature, art, music, radio, television and internet.

Take a look at the example article on the song Shout to the Lord. It has links to information about the song, lyrics and chords to the song and links for comments or opinions to be expressed about the song.

The site also intends to explain the history of important events in Christianity. Take a look at The Reformation section. This has links for "Overview" articles, "Opinion" articles, "Quotes" and "Travel" stories.

The site intends to be a reference about major (and minor) figures in the Bible, the early church and today. Take a look at John Stott. It contains "Overview" and "Opinion" articles. It contains texts of "Talks" given by John Stott and links to "Books" by John Stott.

In summary, I suppose, that my hope is that WikiChristian becomes a major reference point for Christians and non-Christians to go to find about any issue related to Christianity. I don't believe that this should be carbon-copy of wikipedia. It should resemble it in some ways, but in other ways, it should be quite different in structure and evolution. I realize that there are different views about different topics - and accordingly, there should always be the opportunity for a person to write his personal view under the "Opinion and articles" section of any given page.

I would love you to take a look at wikichristian and contribute. If you don't wish to contribute, would you consider visiting it's world wide directory of churches we are setting up and entering your church into the database. The point of the database is to state the location of a church with the service times and add a brief description of the church. You can take a look for example at: Church Directory -> Australia -> South Australia -> Adelaide -> St Matthew's Anglican Church

If you don't wish to contribute to WikiChristian, you could consider one of the other wikis related to Christianity that have been set up by other people. These include: Theopedia, Compass or OrthoxWiki.

Thanks

Graham Grove

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Ugh. I can't remember where it came from. It must have come from a govrnment source, but just where, I don't know. Go ahead and delete it, I guess. User:Zoe|^(talk) 00:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

From Big Daddy

Greetings,

You recently wrote me: "If you don't want to follow the policies, then you need to just leave" and "Please don't be a troublemaker." I have to say, although I'm heartened and encouraged that you took the time to write, those are some pretty strong insinuations.

But to be fair, were you insinuating I was a troublemaker who did not wish to follow policy? Because I would like you to amplify that a little bit.

Don't get me wrong, I think you approached me with a good heart. I just wonder if you understand what I have been put through in just 30 days. Now, I chose to jump right into the fire sort to speak, by editing the articles dedicated to people like Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson and Karl Rove. But I feel that's where a conservative voice was needed most to correct that endemic POV that existed on those pages prior to my arrival and people are now trying to re-introduce.

If you think I'm joking, please go to the Ann Coulter talk page. Note that, although I wasn't involved whatsoever since this morning, Coulter-hating page vandals removed a carefully written nPOV piece, so that the section contains 100% Coulter-bashing and 0% Coulter-defense. This is nothing short of one-sided deletions vandalism. Not to mention a tag-team Quintuple revert. And on the last two reverts no explanation at all was given for reverting.

This is what I deal with on a daily basis. Today it was another user who suffered through this.

So, I will be very interested in your response. Quite frankly I'm a tad bit offended that you would lecture me on one policy which I'm innocent of violating (nPOV) yet clearly violate another policy (AGF) by your insinuations.

However, I'm willing to give you a chance. Do you see what's happening at the Coulter page an example of "a beautiful treaty that allows for consensus between left-wing, right-wing?" Because I sure don't. What I see are left wing POV warriors that needed no provokation ganging up on some conservative editor and willfully violating rules in order to smear a conservative commentator.

Maybe the problem is you haven't had to work on such controversial sites. But, again I don't know. I do know this:

Posters, without as much as a single rebuke from liberal administrators, have initiated a barrage of destructive and senseless personal attacks like this on me:

Hmm.. maybe he just likes to see his user name: "Big Daddy." I think a more accurate term would be "Little Baby." It suits him to a T. What a pathetic troll. Eleemosynary 08:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome, Little Baby! There are also some "stalkers" right outside your door in white coats. They have a pleasant little room for you, with soft walls and nice bars on the window so you won't hurt yourself falling out. Go with them, and you can build pretty collages celebrating Karl Rove to your heart's content! LOL! Eleemosynary 08:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Proof positive! "Little Baby" lives in his own deluded universe, taking breaks from vandalizing Wikipedia only to travel to the drug store for hand lotion so he can better, um, "enjoy" his Ann Coulter picture collection. Duly noted! Eleemosynary 08:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

in just the past 24 hours. Again, not one word of rebuke in proportion to the crime other than perhaps a 'check out npa when you're not busy' wrist tap.

What I've enumerated is just a tiny sample of what I've endured. Are you one who would justify this as 'me bringing it upon myself'? These are factual examples. Other conservatives had had to deal with hateful vindictive liberal editors who nitpick their every move. Check out this as an example - ^talk

Remember, it's not me or the other conservative editors in here making anonymous quadruple reverts on multiple occasions to multiple articles or stalking a poster's every edit so at to make degrading & marginalizing personal attacks.

Are you sure I'm the one you should be warning about being a 'troublemaker'?

Take care. I look forward to your response. Big Daddy 02:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

More on "BigDaddy"

Here's his RfC page, which contains a extensive index of his Wiki activities. [1]

And here's his Arbitration page which (like his RfC page) still awaits his comment: [2]

I notice this vandal selectively doesn't quote the string of personal attacks by him hat preceded my statements about him. Well, that's par for the course, and part of the reason he's now been submitted for arbitration.

He's also blatantly lied to you. He's been multiply reverting edits on the Ann Coulter page all day, under cover of an anonymous address/sockpuppet. Just thought you should know.

Eleemosynary 04:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

See what I mean. He just had to stalk my every post which, if you look here [3] you'll see is harrassment. This is what I've had to deal with. He's even been warned by people who agree with him politically but he...just...can't...stop...stalking. And btw, I absolutely have not been doing as this stalker suggests. It should be quite easy to prove. I'm, amazed at how delusional people get when they are so enraged with hate. Big Daddy 04:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

LB, when are you going to comment on your Arbitration page?[4] It will give you an opportunity to defend yourself. Have a great day! Eleemosynary 04:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

You're a sysop!

Hi, Jdavidb/Archive2, Congratulations on Becoming a Sysop

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Hey there. I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator! You've volunteered to do housekeeping duties that normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops can't do a lot of stuff: They can't delete pages just like that (except patent nonsense like "aojt9085yu8;3ou"), and they can't protect pages in an edit war they are involved in. But they can delete random junk, ban anonymous vandals, delete pages listed on Votes for deletion (provided there's a consensus) for more than one week, protect pages when asked to, and keep the few protected pages that exist on Wikipedia up to date.

Almost anything you can do can be undone, but please take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list before you get started (although you should have read that during your candidacy ;). Take a look before experimenting with your powers. Also, please add Administrators' noticeboard to your watchlist, as there are always discussions/requests for admins there. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Have fun! =Nichalp «Talk»=

Rfa

Congrats on Rfa success (and nice-looking son!) Dlyons493 Talk 13:01, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool

Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:Jdavidb/Archive2/monobook.js:

// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line 

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
             + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' 
             + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

popupShortcutKeys=true; // optional: enable keyboard shortcuts
popupAdminLinks=true;   // optional: enable admin links

There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin|talk|popups 14:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi!

Thanks so much for writing. I see you have just taken the bull by the horns over on WP:VIP without my pearls of wisdom ;) -- I'm glad! Basically, there really aren't any conventions for WP:VIP that I could see. When I became an administrator a couple weeks ago, once I got my sea legs WP:VIP was the first place I visited, having had bad experiences there as a regular contributor and essentially feeling ignored. So I just started cleaning it up. Erased a ton of old requests that hadn't been fulfilled so it didn't look so daunting to deal with -- I know if I go to a page and it's crammed with crap, I'm less likely to want to look at it. I've been erasing requests, provided they were fulfilled or no longer needed attention, just about every day, because so many things get reported there. So far nobody's complained so I'm assuming that it's fine. I've been trying to respond to every request, even if it's to do nothing, so that at least folks know that their request is being paid attention to. And to let other admins know of course that you've evaluated it. You're doing great! See you over there. · Katefan0^(scribble) 16:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I think that's a fantastic idea. I'm sure a lot of people don't keep up with the report once they place it to even know if someone's responded there or not. Let me know how I can help. · Katefan0^(scribble) 19:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Free Republic edits

Hi! Jdavidb - looks like unloosed the gates of hell with my Andy entry.

I am trying to comply with Wiki guidelines, and I have a very well documented case to be made here. Please give me some guidance to how I can present this in a neutral enough manner to make its simple deletion pass muster for vandalism. I think it is a very important part of the FR story.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by BenBurch (talk • contribs) shortly before 17:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. BenBurch 17:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll revise that entry as you suggest... Likely in a few days time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BenBurch (talk • contribs) 18:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Re Safavids

Thanks for helping eliminating NEO-AZERI POV rgarding the Ethnicity of the Safavids! [[User:{{{pantherarosa}}}|{{{pantherarosa}}}]]

Re Safavids

Thanks for helping eliminating NEO-AZERI POV rgarding the Ethnicity of the Safavids! pantherarosa

Advisory Committee election deadline set

Our new admin general, Essjay, has set the date for the advisory committee elections, that date being October 7th. By UTC it is October 5th right now. So see WP:ESP/E for voting in two days, and add yourself to the list if you're interested in running. On a personal note, I'm considering running, as I only resigned as admin general because of time. I'm sure I could help out on the advisory committee... Anywho, watchlist that page, and be sure to read the voting method too. Regards, Redwolf24 (talk) 01:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

ip check

David Gerard did the check yesterday, as usual, results are ambiguous and need to be verified by editing patterns as totally uninvolved users may have used dynamic ip. Fred Bauder 14:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your comments about that sockpuppet nonsense. You're a real class act. I could and do have a lot to learn from you. I'll keep an eye on your edits in the future to do just that. Thanks again.Gator1 16:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

You are SO the man. Thanks for the company. You have brought a smile to my face on an otherwise crappy day. The truth is, I would love to have a civil conversation with users like Hipo, Kizz and Derex, but that just seems impossible with the way they have approached me. Derex, I make you this offer: Choose a neutral page in need of some help , and I will edit it with you and discuss issues in a civil manner. Maybe that would heal wounds between us. I have no problem with that. Thanks for the support J.Gator1 14:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

The way we approached you? Physician, heal thyself. [5] [6] [7]. Hipocrite - «Talk» 14:00, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Sigh...Gator1 14:19, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Look, you want to normalize relations with people, the way to do it is not to blame them for why you don't get along. And before you write "Physician, heal thyself," please note that I'm not exhonorating myself. Hipocrite - «Talk» 14:26, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Sigh...I don't want to fight anymore, please just leave me alone.Gator1 14:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

If you want people to leave you alone, it's probably best not to run around to everyone's talk pages impugning their character. Hipocrite - «Talk» 14:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

OMG, you're just not going to let up are you? What the heck do you want from me?! Do you wantot just brawl, is that what you want? What do I have to tell you to get you to just leave me alone?! You're a troll.Gator1 14:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

BD777 unblocked?

Can you clarify this? According to this page [8], his IP address is blocked until 3:14 6 Oct. If that's so, he's not showing any "restraint" at all. In any event, can you point me to the proof that he's not currently blocked? Thanks. Eleemosynary 18:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

re: our discussion today on paul's page. i tried with both. [9][10][11] it's not because they're conservative. i'll not be inclined to try again. frcp11 now working over on Bill Frist is a conservative i just met, we got off to a bumpy start because he was real suspicious. he's new, but he's got an open mind. look how productive and cordial our relationship is now. i have a fair bit of respect for paul too; he's new. look how he reached out to ryan, and they smoothed things out. so, no ... it's not because people don't give conservatives a fair shake, at least not that i've seen. Derex 03:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello fellow perl monger!

I've begun reading the tutorials, gradually easing my way into things. Just wanted to say hi, and thanks- I've learned a lot just looking at your user page... DAllen (aka da) 00:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Thank you very much for your support on my nomination for adminship. Now that I have been made an admin, I will do my best to live up to the trust you and the community have placed in me. If you ever see my doing something you think is incorrect or questionable, or does not live up to the standards that should be expected of an admin, please let me know. DES ^(talk) 16:13, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

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