Talk:Abessive case

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I'm not sure it's really idioms where the abessive of Finnish language is seen. It really is more productive with all deverbal ma-infinitives of verbs, ie. abessive is commonly used in meaning "without doing" with all verbs.

This is quite right; I corrected the wrong information in the article.--AAikio 08:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Spam links?

The 'Estonian' section had two external links in it to the websites of the Nimeta baar and Nimega baar. I changed these into references since you're not supposed to have external links in the middle of an article, but in fact I'm not sure they belong in the references either since they seem kind of like an advertisement for the bars. Maybe move them into the external links section?

Also, the Nimega baar link seems to have rotted. Cathfolant (talk) 02:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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Confusion with privative

There is a widespread confusion, which found its way into wikipedia, of abessive as form with privative as function. This is aggravated by the fact that in many languages nearly all adjectives may function as nouns. In particular, "homeless" is both an adjective and a "homeless person". In Finnish "moneyless" is rahaton, while rahatta is a noun in abessive case meaning a "no-money". I had a real hard time talking to a native Turkish person about the word "evsiz". I had a hard time to explain what I wanted from him, because evsiz, just as homless, is both adj and noun in all dictionaries. Finally we agreed that Turkish has only 6 cases and evsiz is not among the cases for ev.

The situation exactly mimic the case when people could not comprehend the concept of negative number.

Therefore I will be removing all unreferenced text from here. --Altenmann >talk 21:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)