Talk:Foreigner

Stranger

I have no idea if foreigner in the sense of a person from somewhere else needs its own article in Wikipedia. I attempted to remove all the links to this page using that sense, but I think that may be a lost cause. Any suggestions, alternative approaches, or solutions would be appreciated. -Acjelen 00:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Requested move 15 September 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Foreigner → Template:No redirect – Alien (law) is the primary topic of Foreigner. Foreigner should be redirected there. John Smith Ri (talk) 08:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Stranger can also be a similar primary topic. Overall I think "foreigner" is too vague to have a primary redirect. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose by usage the band has 51,677 views compared with only 5,859[[1]] for Alien (law). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, OP has presented no evidence why this should be a primary redirect. Stranger and Foreigner (band) are especially relevant. 162 etc. (talk) 18:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. I think the term is usually broader than the strict legal definition of "alien", so I'm not sure this would be that useful. After all, the Foreigner band name refers to how the band's British members would be "foreigners" in America (and vice versa), yet one or two of the Brits later achieved American citizenship. I'm sure they'd still be considered the "foreigners" of the group in the US given the context. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, immigrants, migrant workers, and expatriates can all be defined as "foreigners". 162 etc. (talk) 23:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ; Crouch, Swale; 162 etc. and Nohomersryan. There are 15 entries listed upon the Foreigner disambiguation page, with no indication that the proposed WP:PRIMARY REDIRECT's prominence exceeds the combined notability of the remaining 14 entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: The meaning of "alien" seems to have a specific usage in US immigration law, but that is not the case elsewhere. Some countries no longer use the term in their immigration law. "Foreigner"can refer to someone from another place or culture, but that doesn't make them an "alien". - Cameron Dewe (talk) 07:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.